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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And Clark says she believed he was at least 17. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But regardless of what anyone thinks or says. GRACE: All right, so what I don`t get, then, Matt Zarrell, is how can she claim she didn`t know how old he is when -- OK -- when he`s in school with her son. In fact, it was the teen`s grandmother who actually informed Clark that the boy was actually 14 and not 17.
She insists she did (ph) know her husband was 15 about the same time she found out she was pregnant. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m happy but -- and he`s happy.
You know, a court judge did the -- oversaw their wedding and their vows. (END VIDEO CLIP) GRACE: Matt Zarrell, she pled guilty to statutory rape, she only got nine months behind bars.
You know, in Georgia, the law says that you can marry a minor if the bride is pregnant. They actually did it on the driveway of a retired judge. That`s about the same time she found out she was pregnant.
He`s only -- this little boy is only four years older than my grandboy. And you know, they`re lucky that he`s alive, you know, because most 14-year-olds are not found alive. But I`m very angry that, you know, the little boy was probably a virgin. And they`re calling this -- and she said, We were in love. This child knew that something felt good to him, and he was too afraid to say anything, so she continued. We are taking your calls regarding a case where a 37-year-old mother of three launches into a sex affair with her son`s 14-year-old best friend. And to you, Bret Larson (ph), investigative journalist. BRET LARSON, INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALIST: Yes, well, the marriage went down in I guess the only way it could. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) GRACE: We remember American hero, Marine Lance Corporal Thomas Rivers, Jr., 22 Birmingham. Loves scuba, hunting, football, parents Tom and Sharon, sister, Rachel. Clark insists she had no idea her now-husband was 15.
But I want to tell you I`m a mother of twins, too, so you`ll make it, OK? (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The couple made national headlines when they married after a nearly two-year relationship. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, he just was so sweet and he was very polite. (END VIDEO CLIP) GRACE: All right, there is a big clue right there. A 37-year-old mother of three launches into an illegal statutory rape relationship with a 14-year-old boy. She gets pregnant, marries the boy, under an obscure law, then has another baby. ANNE BREMNER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I think we just have to differentiate between the crime and the sentencing in the case like this. In fact, she actually had additional charges tacked on to her rape sentence because she tried to help him escape from a group home where he was being held.
How many babies did she have with this 14-year- old boy? SEDAGHATFAR: Yes, I`m trying to say, at least as far as we know, we`ve heard no one`s come forward. Now, let me ask you, Anahita, do you have children? If the genders were reversed, he would be tarred and feathered. GRACE: Well, you certainly don`t mince words, Matt Zarrell. The boy, 14 years old, in a hotel room with a soon to be 38-year-old mother of three, starts vomiting over and over and over. CARYN STARK, PSYCHOLOGIST: Because he is not of age, Nancy, where he can make that kind of a decision and know what he`s doing. He can`t really differentiate between what`s right for him and what`s wrong for him. Just because they somehow managed to stay together under one roof. To pediatrician and expert in child development, Dr. In the early years of puberty, it`s absolutely normal for a boy to want to experiment with sexual activity. They prefrontal cortexes isn`t developed well and they don`t make good judgment calls. The part of the brain that makes them want to take risky behaviors and rebellious behaviors. As a pediatrician, I`m trained to look for disturbances in eating, sleeping, grades at school, any of those sorts of things. (COMMERCIAL BREAK) (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The words "I`m sorry" are the last thing anyone will get from Lisa Clark, arrested after marrying a 15-year-old.
So that would suggest that there was at least two statutory rapes on this boy. SEDAGHATFAR: Well, he`s legally of age now, Nancy, and that`s what matters. At the time the incident occurred, he was 14 years old. If there are two babies that DNA genetically proves are his, that means he had sex at least twice. Is that what you`re trying to say, there`s only one? We all on this panel know that you can`t come in and just take a baby away, even if the parent is behind bars. And that`s not why one of these babies is in foster care. Elizabeth, as I recall, you have children, one a ballerina, is she not? Should the children never be able to see their natural mother and their natural father despite whatever paperwork is signed? And I think -- GRACE: But wait a minute, though, Anne Bremner, I don`t believe she - - did she actually give away legal custody? It was basically agreed to and they got the kids back. A 37-year-old mother of three checking into a hotel with a 14-year-old boy. In fact they -- this was their first date, actually, when they went to this hotel room, and that was the first night that they had sex. GRACE: I don`t know if mom going to jail repeatedly and having sex with a 12-year-old boy is ever a good thing. Their bodies quickly become more like adult bodies. But let me tell you, I am the parent of a 14-year-old son and a 15-year-old daughter, and they are so far from being equipped to make their way in the world and make important decisions all on their own. At the same time that don`t develop really well their desire center. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They`re making a big deal out of a 15-year-old. UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Charging her with child molestation. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If anything he took advantage of me.
And that`s how I went to sleep every night because every day, I made sure I did everything either to help my children or to educate myself. I believe he was 12 when she started having sex with him. With me, her lawyer, high-profile lawyer out of Seattle, Anne Bremner. GRACE: You know, when you don`t want the world to know what it is you`re doing there`s a reason for that. Elizabeth Beach, explain in a nutshell the theory that she only married the little boy to avoid child molestation charges. She had already committed the crime of statutory rape, so her scheme didn`t work, but she thought for a while it was going to work. He was at risk when this older lady, 37 years old, took him to a hotel and almost immediately got pregnant. But what we know is that there`s significant risks to the child of a teenage parent, there are significant risks to children of incarcerated parents.
I regret not getting the -- well, I know that I did everything that I could have done, once things laid themselves out. (END VIDEO CLIP) GRACE: That was a shot of Mary Kay Letourneau and her young lover. And then it -- and then she gets slapped with all these -- all these crimes that she`s committed in this -- in this lurid relationship that she has. The first date, Elizabeth Beach, is at a sleep-in, at a hotel where the boy, the little boy is so nervous he vomits all night, he can`t eat the next day. I believe he had a juvenile burglary incident and some other minor offenses. (END VIDEO CLIP) GRACE: They all look the same age. Randy Kessler, as I recall, you have at least one little girl. GRACE: Let`s flip the story here, and imagine a 37-year-old man sparking up a, quote, "relationship," with your little girl. KESSLER: Then I`d need my own lawyer to defend me for what I did to him. And there`s some issues when you have much older parents.
So the law really only protected her in letting the two of them get married. ZARRELL: We believe that the mother was either in jail or heading to jail or days away from jail when the baby was turned over to the foster home. Anne Bremner, try to make some sense out of this for me. But didn`t she get out of jail and immediately get pregnant again? In fact, but he was 17 by the time she got out of prison.